Comfort Food

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Yeah, so I am dealing with a bunch of sad news right now. I decided to take a mental vacation and think about something that always makes me feel better.

Food.

This shouldn't surprise anyone. It's a freaking miracle I don't weigh 800 lbs.

Here are some food blogs and recipes that look amazing.


The Girl Who Ate Everything blogged about this Stuffed Caramelized Challah French Toast at Sabrina's Cafe. Doesn't it look delicious? I want some.



Martha Stewart.com currently has a recipe for a chocolate pear tart. This looks sooooo good. I might have to try this one out after my next paycheck.


CakeSpy Seattle blogged about Carolina's Cornetto at Tutta Bella Pizza. Yum.


Cupcake Bakeshop by Chockylit shares a recipe for Sweet and Salty Honey Peanut Cupcakes. These are on my recipe checklist. Must. Try.


Baking A Sweet Life made Pain au Chocolats. I want some.


Bake or Break blogged about this amazing Caramel Apple Pear Cobbler... Gawd that looks good.

This is also from Bake or Break... Dark Chocolate Cherry Cookies.


Baking Obsession created this wonderful Roasted Strawberry and Thyme Sherbet.

My Sweet and Saucy created these Samoas Cupcakes...

Yeah, a giant table filled with this stuff would make things a little better.

Andee


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Thank You

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Thank you for everyone who sent me messages, left me comments, and emailed me after I posted about my cousin's death.

Taft Ahlstrom, my cousin, was 19 years old and a passenger in the car that was hit by another vehicle. He was killed at the scene along with the other two people in the car. I take small comfort in the fact that it was probably an instant thing, and that the people in the car didn't suffer.

Taft was named after Ezra Taft Benson, a Mormon prophet. His mother and father are strong in their faith of the church, and they are finding what comfort they can in their beliefs right now. Taft was getting ready to go on his mission.

My heart goes out to everyone who was effected by the crash. Three young, promising lives were taken yesterday, and the photos of the crash have been displayed on the news and in newspapers which makes things harder in my opinion. This is a copy of an article in the Salt Lake Tribune about the crash, I hope they don't mind me posting it. It was written by Erin Alberty... I like to give proper credit for the news articles I share here.

Two co-workers and their friend died in a car wreck Saturday afternoon near Grantsville.

Bailey Corless, 17, and Taft Ahlstrom, 20, both of Grantsville, were riding in a Dodge Spirit driven by Kendra Naisbitt, 23, of Bluffdale, at about 3:45 p.m., heading west on State Road 138, said Utah Highway Patrol spokesman Jeff Plank.

An 18-year-old from Stansbury Park was driving a Ford 500 east on 138 when he crossed the center line and collided with the Dodge head-on, Plank said.

Corless, Ahlstrom and Naisbitt died at the scene, Plank said. Naisbitt was the only occupant wearing a seat belt, but the shoulder strap was pushed behind her back at the time of the crash, Plank said.

Corless and Ahlstrom worked together at Macey's Food and Drug in Tooele, where co-workers and managers were mourning Saturday night.

"We're just watching the seconds tick to midnight [closing time]," said Lezli Dickinson, who was supervisor to Corless and Ahlstrom. "We're going to miss them terribly. It's like losing two of my own kids."

Ahlstrom's uncle, Troy Johnson, said his nephew was "easy to like" and often formed teams with his friends to play Grantsville variations on the reality game show "Survivor."

"He was friends with everybody," Johnson said.

Officers are investigating why the driver of the Ford crossed the center line, Plank said. He was wearing a safety belt and is expected to make a full recovery, Plank said.


As you can see, Taft was loved by everyone. I will miss him.

Please, everyone... wear your seat belts.

Andee


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Heads-Up

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Hey guys,

I just wanted to post real quick that I lost a cousin in a car accident this afternoon. Three people were killed and unfortunately, my cousin was one of them. It seems as if bad news is raining on me right now.

Don't get me wrong, I know this isn't about me... I am not trying to gain sympathy or anything because the focus should be on him and his life. Honoring it. This just really sucks.

I spent the whole day with my Mom, my brother, his wife and his wife's Mom (who I consider family... she is really cool). We went on this long walk and just took the time to be a family. Hours later we lost someone from that family.

You just never know guys... you never know.

When it rains, it pours.

Andee


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I Lost A Friend

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You know, I grew up in a REALLY small town. To put it in perspective, there were 17 kids in my graduating class. Really. We had to drive 35 minutes to partake in the yummy goodness that is McDonald's. We were on an army base in the middle of nowhere... literally. To leave the base you had to travel over a large mountain pass to join the rest of civilization.

Those living on the army base were used to seeing troops running down the streets in full gear, hummers driving down the street, helicopters hovering in the desert in the distance. We all climbed into F-16s as kids on the 4th of July celebrations, and every night we stopped everything when the flag was taken down and a cannon was sounded in respect.

Everyone knew everyone, whether they wanted to or not. You were stuck, at times, in a small town with people you just couldn't get away from. You see the same people at the gas station, the commissary, the PX. Everyone was an acquaintance, everyone was a friend. You couldn't help it.

Needless to say, there wasn't much for us to do in that town. There was a movie theater that showed one movie a night on Thursdays, Fridays and Saturdays, and I was the projectionist. The equipment was built in the 50's, and I would be shocked as hell if the projectors were still operating.

While working at the theater, I met a friend named Amanda. She was a couple years younger than I was, in my brother's class. Those who worked at the theater (all three of us) became friends and we hung out all the time. I was even there the day Amanda met her future husband, an army man who asked her to sit with him during the movie. It was sweet and romantic, and they were together ever since.

Amanda had a younger brother, Jason. Jason did what most of my friends did after graduating from high school, he joined the armed forces. It's a family tradition in some households, it's not something they even consider not doing. I am not sure if Jason was pressured to join, I doubt it...

Jason was sent to Iraq and came home suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder after witnessing his friend die:

Jason Klinkenberg and his wife, Crystal.

"Labor Day 2005," said Art Klinkenberg [Jason's father]. "It changed his life."


According to Klinkenberg's father, his son was driving a truck in a convoy when a rocket-propelled grenade shot into the cab of the truck in front of him. The driver, a close friend of Jason Klinkenberg, exited the vehicle.
"He came out on fire, screaming for help. Jason tried to save him, but his commanding officer pulled him back," Art Klinkenberg said.

Jason Klinkenberg spent eight hours with his friend's body, waiting for support troops to transport the body back.

Klinkenberg wore a bracelet with his dead friend's name on it.


"He saw this guy's burning image regularly in his head," his father said.

Yes, it's horrible. An experience like that changes you forever. I can't imagine dealing with the things that Jason saw in Iraq. Reading about the experience alone makes tears come to my eyes, the thought of actually being there covered in body armor with the smells and the heat makes my brain practically shut down. No one should have to deal with that.

Jason sought help upon returning to the states. He didn't receive the help he needed. The system is broken, and even though he asked for help dealing with the demons, he didn't receive it. It eventually took Jason to a place that made him kill his wife, Crystal, and then himself after a standoff with police in Las Vegas.

Klinkenberg's sister, Amanda Harrod, recalled her brother as a "sweet guy."

But he had also returned from Iraq troubled by what he'd experienced there, Harrod said. And when he sought help from the Air Force, she said, he was turned away.

"When my brother first went for help, they called him a liar," she said.

Air Force officials contest that claim. They say signs of post-traumatic stress disorder surfaced in an initial examination and Klinkenberg was referred to a specialist off-base, where he had been attending regular therapy sessions.

"He was very cooperative and willing to receive the support," said Nellis spokeswoman Amanda Ferrell.

In spite of the problems her brother faced, Harrod and her father are having trouble understanding how he could have taken his wife's life and then his own.

"He had so many friends, and none of them can believe what happened," Harrod said. "Everyone who met him loved him."

"Something went wrong that night," Art Klinkenberg said. "That was his soul mate. He loved her more than anything."

I read about stuff like this in the news all the time. I always shake my head and curse that things should be different, that we shouldn't have our troops over there to begin with... but this really brought it home to me.

I actually KNEW this guy.

To all the men and women who are serving this country or have served in the past, please know that most of the citizens you protect respect and thank you immensely. I hope that legislation is passed to require the armed forces to give more counseling to soldiers who have been in combat so that this kind of thing doesn't happen to anyone else.

War changes you.

I don't understand how some officials think you can come from a place where you are constantly on the lookout for people trying to kill you to a normal life and not have any problems. The sound of a car backfiring alone would put some of these soldiers right back in "war mode." Soldiers returning from combat missions suffer more than anyone knows... and they are are risk for suicide or worse.

How many wake-up calls is it going to take?

Two young lives were taken that day. Two lives that were full of promise and hope... the world was at their fingertips. There are also countless other lives that were taken over similar circumstances.

I am not sure what I want to accomplish from sharing this, I guess I just wanted to remember the person he was before this happened.

My heart is broken right now.

Andee


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You Are Not Worthy

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A random topic on PostMormon.org inspired me to post this. It's a dilemma most Mormons have had to deal with... heck, non-Mormons have to deal with it, too.

All Mormons are told that God wants them to have a temple wedding. Trouble is, you have to be "worthy" to walk into a temple. You not only have to be a member of the church, you have to be a member in good standing. This means:

  • Paying 10% tithing to the Mormon Church
  • Attending services regularly
  • Fulfilling callings
  • Following the Word of Wisdom (which includes things like no coffee/tea)
  • Sustaining the president of the church as a prophet, seer and revelator
  • Being one with the teachings of Mormon doctrine
There are others that I can't think of at the moment. Forgive me.

So, what does a young man/woman do when they want to get married in the temple? They have to realize that their church gets to decide who is worthy to attend their wedding. There is so much pressure on couples to marry in the temple that most make the decision to have the temple ceremony without some of their family and friends in attendance. These family and friends are usually welcomed at the reception later, but it's just not the same thing... is it?

The whole thing has always struck me as judgmental and arrogant... even as a believing member.

Why would God want a young woman, for example, to marry without the people who raised her, funded her education, bandaged her boo-boos by kissing them and making them better, loving her and bringing her into the world in attendance?

How is that in line with family being important?

It's a slap in the face to people that are not Mormon when they find out they are judged as unworthy.

Some of these people might be sweeter, more honest, and loving than some of the temple recommend carrying people that can walk through the temple door! Let me remind everyone that one of my uncles attended the temple when my father's temple work was done a few months after he passed away. He attended the ceremony higher than a freaking kite on heroin.

Why was my uncle considered worthy, and I considered unworthy?

The rules and guidelines make no sense to me. The whole temple sacred/secret thing pops up when you think about this topic, but that doesn't really explain why God would want a marriage ceremony to be so exclusive to begin with. Why marriage? Why not do what some couples do and have a normal wedding and then get sealed in the temple later on?

As a kid growing up in the LDS Church, temple marriage was mentioned constantly. It was preached as the right thing to do, and that the pain it might cause some family members would be worth it because you were doing right by God.

Maybe I just don't get it...

I just don't understand why God would want it that way.

Andee


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I've Been Busy

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Tomorrow one of my supervisors is transferring to another department. It's not like I will never see him again or anything, but he is really cool and I will miss his laid back approach. He's cool. Luckily, the person taking his spot seems pretty cool as well.

So... I used his last day in the department as an excuse to bake. I will take any excuse to bake, most of you know this by now.

Here are my latest creations:

These are homemade girl scout cookies... samoas.



The cookie itself is shortbread. I used the recipe from Martha Stewart magazine but you could substitute store-bought cookies if you like. Sandies Simply Shortbread are just as good as the cookies from scratch if you ask me!!! And you don't have to tell anyone you didn't make 'em!

I melted a bag of milk chocolate chips, and poured half the chocolate onto a cookie sheet covered with wax paper. I then placed my shortbread cookies on the chocolate to coat the bottom. Then, I took some toasted coconut and caramel sundae sauce, mixed them, and put a little of the mixture on top of the cookies (still on the cookie sheet). I then used a fork and drizzled the remaining chocolate over the cookies. Pop them in the fridge to let the chocolate cool and harden, then break the cookies up and put them on a plate. The chocolate breaks randomly, and I like the homestyle look it gives the cookies.

I didn't have as much coconut as I thought I did and that was a bummer. I highly suggest using more than I did!



I know they look nothing like the girl scout version, but the taste is similar and quite good.

Next, we have:


Chocolate Toffee Cupcakes!

It's devil's food cake with tons of chopped toffee candy bars in the cake batter. Then I iced the cupcakes with chocolate frosting and then rolled the cupcakes in the remaining candy bar pieces. These are really good, and I am definitely planning on making them again.


Last, but certainly not least:

Devil's Food Mint Chocolate Brownie Cupcakes.

Yes, this one was pretty damned complicated, but very worth it.

In each cupcake cup I placed a spoonful of devil's food cake batter, then a layer of mint chocolate brownie batter, then another layer of devil's food cake batter. Bake, then cool. They look like these:
I didn't want too much chocolate in the cupcake, so I used vanilla frosting and tinted it green to play up the mint flavor inside the cake itself...


Then I took some time and used the remaining mint chocolate brownie batter and baked up the topping...


Yeah, this cupcake will probably kill any diet created. It's worth it, though. Promise.

The chocolate sauce is mint chocolate sauce, which really helps the flavor.

Hope you all like 'em!

Andee


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Sneaking Into The Temple

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Update: The video was taken down. Shocking, isn't it?

Here is another clip of the endowment ceremony on Big Love!



Big Love has opened the discussion on the Mormon temple and it's ceremonies. For those who don't know, Big Love is a series on HBO about polygamous families and their lives. I don't have HBO, so the only thing I have seen is this clip of a ceremony:



Go ahead believing Mormons... yell and scream at me for posting the ceremony. I am prepared.

Anyway...

I thought the ceremony was portrayed with respect. They were obviously showing the scene from the eyes of someone who honored the temple and it's ceremonies... they were not making fun of the temple in my opinion.

A discussion brewed about people sneaking into the temple because one of the characters sneaks into the temple during the show. Many were wondering how this was even possible, and I am here to remind everyone that it is definitely possible. There are many examples, although I am only aware of this one at the moment:

Eight Hour Lunch Podcasts: Possummomma Goes to the Temple

Possummomma was raised a Catholic and became roommates with a Mormon in college. Said roommate was questioning Mormonism and you will have to listen to the rest!

Andee


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Found On Craigslist

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This letter was posted on Craigslist:

It will probably be flagged and removed in a matter of time, so forgive me if the link doesn't send you to the location. Thanks to a wonderful poster on PostMormon.org for bringing the letter to my attention. This says everything I have always wanted to say!

Dear Elder (Name):

As one who suffers from within, I write this letter to inform you of the magnitude of a growing problem. I am fully active, fully worthy, and fully apostate. I remain active solely for the sake of immediate and extended family unity, and to preserve my marriage. The fact that I cannot act upon my knowledge about fraudulent church history and doctrine has created a considerable dilemma for both the church and myself. The church is filled with people like me, and if you do not address this dilemma, the church will collapse from within. This letter, therefore, is an appeal for your consideration of my personal dilemma, and to serve as a witness against you if you fail to act.

I am writing this letter anonymously because I fear the power of your unrighteous dominion. It is not acceptable for you to claim that you personally would not wish for those like me to suffer or fear. The “Strengthening Church Members Committee” has proven its reach in the true style of “1984 Thought-Crime” investigations and “Ministry (councils) of Love” discipline. Yes, I fear you, I loath your tactics and I forcibly serve you. If you doubt my claim of forced servitude, then you would be wise to withhold your assessment until the end of this letter. I am writing with the futile hope that you (or anyone) will care enough to resolve this growing and unavoidable tragedy within the church; the tragedy of those who know the truth and cannot act upon it without destroying their families.

I come from 1837-convert lineage. I grew up in the Mormon Colonies in Mexico; I was hyper-valiant in my youth; I completed reading the full set of scriptures by the age of 16; I had all the missionary discussions and missionary scriptures memorized before even getting my call to serve; I served a very successful mission in Mexico; I attended BYU; I married in the temple; I served in four different bishoprics, high council, stake executive secretary, gospel doctrine instructor, young men’s president, high priest group leader, and various other callings; I was a student of the gospel, and was known for my answers to difficult historical and doctrinal questions; I have attended the temple more than 800 times, and virtually have the whole thing (all ordinances) memorized; I am a set-apart ordinance worker; I am currently serving in three ward and stake callings; IN OTHER WORDS: I deserve your respect, and am not engaged in any unworthy activity, so before you categorize me into some convenient slot, think again.


I have five children, two returned-missionary-temple-married, one attending BYU, and two active in the youth program. My wife and I have lived our nearly 25 years of marriage completely united in our commitment to a gospel oriented home. My wife is one of the most valiant, unquestioning, devoted members you will ever meet. Our happiness in marriage was centered in the gospel. We have faithfully performed all of the home-strengthening practices (FHE, daily prayer and scripture study, etc) throughout our married years. Our children are strong in the church because we as parents gave them that foundation. We are your typical success story.

This changed approximately two years ago. The story about how it changed is long, complicated, and spans years of personal study, personal observation, and experience. Rather than rehearse the entire journey, I will only summarize the end results. Suffice it to say that I have discovered reliable unchallenged facts about church history, church operations, church doctrine, and church culture that have brought me to the undeniable conclusion that the church is not true. Not only is the church not true (meaning that it is not what it claims to be), but the church purposefully withholds (even denies) vital information that would lead ANY thinking person to the same conclusion. Finally, church leaders even boast about the moral and ethical justification for acting this way. This is the behavior pattern of a cult; it is inconsistent with the church’s own articles of faith; and it is the central reason for the growing groundswell of revolt from within. To ignore this fact is the height of arrogance. You are either stupid or you are devious; whichever you choose, you lose.


I have a feeling (since I cannot imagine a different possibility) that you already know about this problem. You already know that the church is not what it claims to be; you already know that Native Americans are not the Lamanites of the Book of Mormon; you already know that the whole story of the BOM is not accurate or historical or even a translation of gold plates; you already know that the Book of Abraham is not a translation of the papyri that it claims to be; you already know that the first vision account is not reliable or accurate; you already know that church history is a warped version of real history and real history paints a pretty bleak picture of church origins and behavior; you already know that spiritual “special witness” experiences are not what the average member believes them to be; and you already know that as prophets, seers, and revelators, you do not possess any such gifts as they are understood by the average member. You receive and even encourage unqualified trust in your special abilities, and you know very well that those abilities are not special at all. You may be talented administrators, but you are not prophets, seers, and revelators, and you know it. Yet you allow members to revere and honor you as such. You are either self-deceived or you are willing deceivers. You know that members believe and teach that you have had personal physical visitations from Jesus Christ, and you know that you have not had this experience. Yet, you are willing to allow members to perpetuate this myth for unknown but unavoidably dishonest reasons. This is a pattern, not an anomaly. You know you are not what you claim to be (or what church culture teaches about you); and you allow this false perception to continue. What does that say about you and your integrity?

So, after coming to this awful realization that things are not what they claim to be within the church, what are my options? This journey was so disruptive and internally tumultuous that I chose to travel it alone. I was absolutely certain that there were solid faith sustaining answers to each disturbing fact. Finally, after I had absorbed the magnitude of the truth, I tried to share it with my wife. To her horror, she saw that her husband had gone into the unthinkable realm of “apostasy”. At first, she resented me for even looking; then she denied the possibility that any of it could be true; then she tried to stand on the shaky ground that even if it was true it did not lead to the conclusions I had made; finally, she clings to the defensive posture that I cannot be smarter than you (how can so many good men be wrong and her imperfect husband be right?). This is where you come into the picture. This is where the church comes between me and my wife in our marriage relationship. This is where the damage is done in countless other relationships. Do you think that you can escape responsibility for this damage? Do you doubt your complicity in creating this wedge? Can you understand how people like me come to a point of powerless resentment against the church? I suspect that you cannot understand such things, because if you did you would use your influence to make necessary changes.


There is nothing more ironic than the saying that “A man can leave the church, but he can never leave it alone.” The truth is that “A man can leave the church but only if he leaves ‘alone’”, or “A man can leave the church but the church can never leave him alone.” You would gladly split up my family rather than allow my knowledge to draw them away from the church. You have proven such intent in both policy and practice.

I am trapped in the church; of that there can be no doubt. And yet I perceive that you do indeed doubt such an idea. It seems foreign to you that I would claim to be trapped in an institution that glorifies agency. But surely you can see the cultural elements (which you support) that limit my options. Extended family relationships are high-pressure control mechanisms. My leaving the church for doctrinal or historical reasons would have a devastating and disruptive impact on the entire family network. You glorify those who leave their families to join our church and at the same time you demonize those who would leave the church for whatever reason. You stereotype those who obtain damaging “truth” as intellectuals and apostates. You encourage an atmosphere of exclusion against those who have information that would damage faith, even when that faith is founded upon false data.

Your efforts of withholding and denying truth have had the result of destroying personal integrity. I know things that I cannot openly speak about, even with those closest to me. I lie in temple recommend interviews so I can go to the temple to see my own children get married, and because my wife is comforted by the image of a temple worthy husband. I lie to my children when they question an aspect of church history or doctrine, because the truth would place them in the same pressure cooker I am in. I lie to my wife because she finds the truth so disturbing. I lie because telling the truth is more painful than a comforting lie. And I learned to lie from you. You are lying to the membership by your silence (and denial) regarding information that is vital to faith. People base their faith on incorrect information; you know this; and you remain silent. You lie for the same reason that I lie; because people prefer a comforting lie over a disturbing truth. I am trapped here because of the culture you have created, and I am reduced to using the same tactics you use at the expense of personal integrity.


Your understanding of the culture you created and perpetuate through established programs is dismal. You preach adherence to the guidance of the brethren; you promise blessings for obedience to programs and leaders; you build a structure of dependence and hierarchical authoritarianism; you inculcate an environment of conformance without regard to individuality; and you do all of this with the stated intent of blessing and improving lives, relationships and family bonds. Your programs have evolved into a culture with the opposite effect than the one you intended; members feel constantly inadequate regardless of their effort; families pressure struggling children with bad advice that comes from your talks and books; you raise the bar, a blatant slap in the face to those who do not fit within your misguided program. Programs flounder not because of poor execution but because they are poor programs. When such negative results reach your ears, you are saddened that the poor members just do not see the vision; that they cannot learn the vital lessons. It never occurs to you that your inspiration and leadership is the flawed element. Either you are uninspired or uninformed, but your leadership is causing more suffering than blessings. But this is not really about bad programs. Rather, it is about faulty foundations. I do not expect you to acknowledge that the church is not what it claims to be, but I demand that you acknowledge your part in the failures. Stop blaming failure on the members. It is cheap and dishonest.

So, I am angry to the point of despair. I do not expect you to do anything with this information, except try to track me down and deal with me through your secret “committees”. I would resign today if I thought my family could remain intact. But I will continue to coax my family closer to the truth with longsuffering and gentle persuasion, and when they can see the real story without demonizing their father, son, and husband, then I will relish our departure and be rid of you and your unrighteous dominion. Someday I will not be so afraid of your influence, and I will confront your abuse of power directly.

Your success is over. You had a small window of opportunity to be forthcoming and open, and you have missed it. History is against you. Science is against you. TRUTH is against you. As you become more closed and protective, you will appear more ridiculous from the outside. Even though you will probably interpret this result to be “prophecy fulfilled,” the result will be the same. Enjoy your last breath of illusory comfort, because it will not last.

I am not alone. I am part of a growing community of knowledgeable members who will not be silenced for long. You have no idea how to deal with us because you fear our power. You fear it because you know that truth is on our side. I would feel pity for you except for the inexpiable arrogance that you currently display without remorse. The law of the harvest will be your undoing. You have sown seeds of benevolent deception; you shall reap a harvest of faithful rebellion.

Disrespectfully:

Faithful Apostate


All I can say is WOW.

I wish I knew this guy so I could shake his hand and buy him a large coffee...

Andee


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More Temple Ceremony Quotes

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Many more people have added quotes about their first experience in the temple ceremony, here are their quotes:

I can understand the frustration and anger over this issue. I was shocked, too, as I took out my endowments before my mission eight years ago. Having all my family and close ward members at the temple as I was invited to enter this secret combination of signs and tokens was not what I expected, and yet, at the time, I was so pressured to accept and embrace this new level of church committment that I conviced myself that this had to be the real deal. I do feel angry at times, too, when I look back and see how much social pressure I was under and how many questions I buried within myself because I felt like I would be rocking the boat if I did anything but faithfully accept all that I was given. I, too, wish that I was stronger at the time to take a stand for myself, but I such decisions take maturity and time. I'm just glad that I'm where I am today. I'm sure we all are. There are many moments when I feel angry towards the church, but I try to concentrate on the present and be thankful that I am a better person today. I can't change what happened before, but I can certainly live my life now and be grateful for what I do have.

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Did any of you take the temple prep class? I did and it prepped me for.... NOTHING! WTF? And I thought when I went to the temple I would be much more in tune with the spirit and many of my questions would be answered. Instead, like most of you, I was embarassed, confused, and even horrified. My mother, who kept pushing me to finally go to the temple (I was 40 I think, and married to a nevermo), is such a level headed, intelligent person. And here she was dressed in a funny hat and apron. Beyond weird!!! I still can't wrap my brain around it. And of course I can't talk about it to my family because it's "sacred" (sacred my ass - silly is more like it).

Actually, I also have to complement the boys at the COB. They pulled it off! They instituted a incredibly strange, icky ceremony and called it sacred and told members that they should never discuss it (outside the temple and you really can't talk inside the temple). And if you do have questions and issues like we all have - if you want to go to "heaven" you shut-up and go to the temple. Also, even if cog-dis. sets in, you pretend that you are having a spiritual experience so you fit in. And sometimes you can even talk yourself into thinking it is spiritual - for a little while anyway.

All I can really say now is YUCK !

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Yeah, I think they intentionally have us go to the temple right before our mission. We already have a two year commitment and a ton of social pressure. The perfect time to throw in a crazy ceremony without any worry that we'll have the balls to back out.

I went about three days before I got on the plane to Brazil for my mission. I'm already a pretty quiet guy, but after the endowment, I said almost nothing. I was in some sort of confused stupor. My older brother had given me a small warning, but no one else had mentioned anything. Even afterward no one really seemed to care that it bugged the crap out of me. No one told me that it was weird for everyone.

I personally have a mission. I want to tell all my good friends who are still members that the temple is staight up wacked. My brother is planning on getting married in the temple this year. I'm going to give him the warning I never got. I want to warn every girl who plans to get married in the temple but doesn't know what is in there.

I know I'll have to be careful to not come off as an unbelievable anti-mormon, but everyone deserves to have some idea of what they are getting themselves into before they go to the temple. People can ask me to be quiet about other aspects of the church that I don't like. I respect that people can believe how they want. But I will not be quiet about the temple. I think it causes a lot more pain and discomfort than it does good.

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Lots of memories, but the first one that came to mind was sitting separated from my husband (which irritated the hell out of me) and listening to this whole thing - the death threats, the super-dramatic asides from Satan - and trying desperately to find the sacred spirit in there. The temple was my last hope, the one place I was absolutely sure to feel SOMETHING. Instead what wasn't bizarre was just silly. I must have had quite a look on my face because my husband, who had gone through as a missionary, said something about it in the Celestial Room and, afraid to admit that once again God hadn't spoken to me (because, natch, it was all my fault) I just said I had been concentrating really hard so I wouldn't miss anything.


One other small memory of other times I went - being sure that some part of the whole kit was going to come loose at the wrong time and fall off. Surely God smites you if your apron ribbons slip after Satan done warned you about nekkidness.

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Before I went I attended a temple prep class. (Totally useless). (I was 18, btw) One of my amazing wonderful leaders who I still love inspite of her being a total TBM told me a few weeks before I went that she herself didn't like going and hadn't been in 5 years b/c she thought it was weird and didn't like to stand up and sit down over and over.

That is what I had to go off of when I went for the first time. My first time was the night before my temple wedding. The 2nd time was the next day right before my temple wedding - we did a session and went straight into the sealing room - I was in my wedding dress.

Honestly, I wish I could remember more about both days, but I guess I've blocked it all out. Both times I just thought that it was totally bat shit crazy, but that *I* must just not be righteous enough and that was why I wouldn't allow myself to love it.

I never liked it though. Not for a second. There wasn't any moment ever that I enjoyed going - and I've been more times than I can count.

Honestly, the part I hate the most is the Celestrial room. I know most people like this the best, but I just felt totally uncomfortable having all these weird dressed people walking around in total silence with this "spiritual" look about themselves. Being in a situation like that makes me feel totally vunurable and out of place and totally uncomfortable. All the wispering. All the uber face sympathetic smiles from everyone. And the worst part, the way my DH acted while we were in there. He gets so affectionate and happy and fake and I just can't explain it but I just can't stand it! He, on the other hand, says that he always feels the spirit and feels so full of love in the Celestrial room. I guess that is where the disconnect is b/w him and I. I just want to get the hell out of there and he wants to stay and cuddle.

And this may sound harsh, but I hate the way the temple is decorated. Everyone always says how beautiful it is, and I guess it is if that is your taste, but I always felt that the temple rooms were very starchy, hotel lobby-ish, and gawdy with all the cream and gold. I felt like I was sitting in a rich great-Aunt's stuffy mansion.

I didn't hate the entire ceremony initially b/c I just thought it was so F-ing weird that I couldn't decide if I should hate and loathe it or laugh my ass off at it. The movie was slightly entertaining - especially since I am a friend of a friend of "satan" in the movie - so I would just laugh at that part. I did hate how I coulnd't sit with my DH ever though. And I hated how he had an indention on his forehead the rest of the day.

Okay, I said I hated the Celestrial Room the most - I guess I hated it the 2nd most b/c the #1 thing that I HATED just loathed from the first second I ever learned about it was the damn veil that women wore. I hate things on my head first off - I even felt silly with a bridal veil on at my wedding - but the worst part was having to cover my face up with it. That just got my blood really boiling.

I feel cheated out of a real wedding. I can never get that back. I could renew my vows, but it just isn't the same. I didn't have bridesmaids. I know many who have temple weddings do, but my parents said I didn't need them and that it was a waste of money. They are there to help you get ready for your wedding, and since I was getting married in the temple there was no reason to have any. Almost none of my friends came to my wedding. They were all off to college at the Y. I didn't have a flower girl or a ring bearer or the wedding march music. And worst, I had my reception in our ward building. My mother, bless her, tried to dress it up by renting all these arches and greenery and it did look nice, but there was still a carpeted basketball court on the floor and accordian doors.

Instead of having this big joyous wedding day, I just wanted for it to be over b/c I felt so out of place in the temple. Even the ceremony was a bust. I didn't get to say "I do". They make you say "yes". Everyone in the room was "so full of the spirt" that they were crying. I felt cold hearted b/c I wasn't emotional and I TRIED to make myself cry - at my wedding - over the croqucheted alter. I felt guilty and crappy and not good enough to feel the spirit on my own wedding day!

I haven't been through a session in a few years. I went to a wedding there about 2 years ago, but no session thank god. That is the last time I've gone. My reccomend expired a few months ago and the bishopric asked me when I wanted an interview. I told him I'd call him later to set it up. I'm not calling. He knows I don't have one and I think he knows I don't plan on getting one. Who cares!

Temple weddings: In case you are curious, I don't remember a thing about what was said at my wedding, but I do remember some of what was said at the one I went to 2 years ago. Basically the entire ceremony the guy focused on lecturing the bride and groom about multiplying and replinishing the earth. He went on and on about their ancestors and also future generations and how these are turbulant times and it is our calling and mission to raise up large families. He must have spent 20 minutes talking about them being a baby making factory. Then, when he married them it took less than 20 seconds, and that was it. They got up, hugged everyone, and we all left. So 20 minutes on making babies, and 20 seconds on everything else.

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My reaction: W... T... F...

I had had what I would consider my first "cultish" experience at scout camp when I recieved my Order of the Arrow (OA). I remember that there were some secret rituals involved with the OA ritual. Needless to say, my first visit to the temple blew the OA out of the water on the cult-o-meter. All I could think about after my visit to the temple was how bizarre the ritual was, and how different it was from anything that I had experienced in church up to that point.

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I went through the temple the day before I left on my mission. No one from my family was with me as my dad was (recently) dead and my mom had not been endowed. We were converts so since my dad was initially not a member and never very active when he did join, my mom never got to go.

My bishop (who was a pretty good guy) took me. A bunch of the ward members were there to see me through. I was excited and scared as I had no idea what to expect.

Like [another poster], I was thrown by the whole money changers in the temple thing. In context, the Biblical money changers were doing the same thing: selling goods necessary for temple use. In their case it was the various animals for sacrifice, but isn't it the same thing?

I shook that off an then was hit with the whole let's get your clothes off and put this open-sided shield on you. I have what I jokingly call a "healthy body shame" so I was thrown for a loop by that. But I knew it had to be all right. This was the pinnacle ordinance wasn't it? The garments weirded me out too. I had never seen them before.

The session itself was unremarkable, except for the fact that I did sort of hope to see Eve totally naked which made me feel guilty. Then midway through the session, I remembered an unconfessed sin (I had "borrowed" club money from a school club I was in charge of and never paid it back). I didn't confess it because I didn't remember doing it, but I was filled with dread and guilt. I wanted to die. It only got worse when I got to the MTC, but that's another story.

Once we got all the gear on, I couldn't get the image of Monty Python's John Cleese wearing it doing his silly walk. That brought on another surge of guilt. I shouldn't make light of sacred things. But I couldn't get the image out of my head.

When I went through, they still had the throat slashing, disemboweling parts, but strangely, that didn't bother me. I took it that the evil anti-Mormons would be doing these things to me unless I revealed the secrets, not that I would have it done to me for revealing it. The whole secret combinations notion came to me, but I pushed it aside.

To contrast, my wife was very well prepared for her first time by our bishop at the time. He pretty much went through it with here without giving the details. He was really thorough about it. As a consequence, she wasn't bothered at all.

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I was a relatively recent convert to the Church and was going on a mission. I flew from Eastern Canada to stay with a family in Bountiful and a couple of days before I was to enter the MTC I went to the Salt Lake Temple for a live session. It was very weird...confusing...I was trying to have it make some sense. Of course to those who have been drinking the Koolaid for a long time, their response is that you need to pray more and fast, read your scriptures and soon the spirit would manifest itself to you. I think as I look back I was interested in doing it because I felt I was doing something "important" (boy was I hooked) and actually would run from the end of one session to get back in line for a new name and the start of another one. I used to get frustrated and was so judgmental when I'd see someone sleeping in during the movie. Now I feel so betrayed and stupid. When you're young...not well educated...and looking for others to help give your life some direction you can sure be susceptible to some stupid stuff. And it troubles me all the more that I raised my children in the Church. And worse yet that as I have come to learn about the Church and have distanced myself from it that my kids have grown closer to it. I suspect that there's a lot of similarity between this and having your buddies or as a young person, the adults that you trust and respect, take you to your first KKK cross burning and initiation. From the untrained eye, it sure looks alot like it.

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This discussion reminds me of one time when I forgot the name of the day. Of course they ask if there's anyone who has forgotten it, and suddenly it occured to me that I hadn't been paying anough attention because I had no idea what it was. So they took me out, and the temple worker said (or I THOUGHT he said), "Remember the prophet, Brother."

I looked at him blankly. He said "The prophet Joseph?" And I said, "Ooooh, okay..."

We went back in, did the whole endowment, I thought the name "Joseph" in my head at the right time, then at the veil we got to the part where you have to reveal the New Nom de Plume of the day, and I said, "Joseph..."

The assistant at the veil looked at me and said, You mean Hyrum, don't you?" Suddenly it occurred to me that the temple worker hadn't said "Remember the prophet, Brother," but rather "Remember the prophet's brother..."

For a long time I wondered whether the poor guy I was doing work for and on behalf of would be cheated out of the CK because I had thought the wrong New Name in my head.

One thing that confused me though was how everyone seemed to know the secret name but me! I hadn't learned yet that the name is the same for everyone on a given day.


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Temple Ceremonies

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Ahh, don't worry... I am not going to post photos of the Mormon temple ceremonies even though they exist in millions of places (including on this blog, and believe me... I had an opportunity to post a photo of the Pillsbury dough boy dressed in temple garb showing off one of the heavenly token handshakes that cracked me up!) This post is about all the freaking out from Mormons everywhere about Big Love, and HBO series about polygamy, showing part of a temple endowment ceremony.

Obviously, I don't believe that this ceremony is sacred. Just my opinion, of course. It's clear to everyone who studies Mormon history that the ceremony is largely stolen from the Masons. Many believing Mormons tell me that this is because the Masonic ceremony came from Soloman's temple (riiiight). Don't buy it. Joseph Smith was a Mason, and he borrowed the ceremony. Pure and simple.

Just for the sake of argument, lets pretend God is up there and he wants to make a way for righteous people to gain tokens to heaven (or whatever else this is supposed to do). Do you really think that God would use secret handshakes and chanting?

Come on, really?

The whole thing is laughable to me. How easy would it be for someone to steal these tokens and handshakes? Obviously it's very easy, because anyone can find these handshakes if they do their homework, right? Why would God make it so easy for people to fake their way into heaven?

To many, the temple ceremony isn't sacred at all... and the only thing that made them once think it was sacred was that Joseph Smith and other church leaders through history told them so. I thought I would take some quotes from PostMormon.org (hope these people don't mind... I am not sharing usernames because the subject matter is somewhat personal) about their first experience in the temple.

Let me warn believing Mormons reading from this point on that some of the comments might seem offensive because a good portion of them are negative. If I have learned anything at all from comments on this blog, it's that some members assume anything wavering from the cookie-cutter "The temple is sooooo wonderful" statements they hear in church from friends and leaders is wrong, angry, bitter and prompted from Satan. If you don't want to be offended, stop reading. Right. Now.

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I personally was so put off by the experience that I didn't go back and subsequently blocked a lot of the experience from my memory. I'd rather have a colonoscopy. At least I'll know how healthy my bowels are, because I do remember swearing under punishment of disembowelment to not divulge the secret handshakes and whatever else I blocked out of my memory. I'm sure with enough mushrooms the whole experience would come back to me. Hopefully nobody shows up at my door demanding my innards.

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Excited, enter temple, undress, put on crazy sheet, confused, scared, dress, watch movie, bored, stand up and screw with goofy costume, bored, confused, stand in circle and chant, scared, play tiddlywinks with stranger through sheet, confused, wait in celestial room....then leave... Ultimately it was a huge let down. It was kind of amusing, I mean who knew the temple was so bat shit goofy.

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In my first endowment session, I sobbed LOUDLY through the whole thing pretty much. My friend next to me asked if I was crying because of the spirit or because it was weird. I answered "weird". I think it must have been pretty obvious I was freaked out by it.

The really weird thing, if you ask me, is that everyone just ignored it. None of those nice temple workers took me aside and said, "Are you sure you want to go through with this? You don't have to, you know", or "Is there something I can help you understand?" I was getting married the next day, so I pretty much felt I had to.

I was comforted by telling myself that if it was true, I wanted to make these covenants, and if it wasn't, it didn't matter. I remember feeling somewhat happy/relieved when I went through to the celestial room and there was my fiance waiting for me. (If I were him, I might have pretended not to know me after the scene I'd made ).

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Was a bit nervous, very open-minded, sort of excited. Got into the temple thinking how totally cool this was. Then I was taken to the counter to rent the temple packet. As the cash register went "ka-ching" I had my first powerful "WTF?" moment in the temple.

Money-changing? In the temple? I thought this was the House of the Lord; didn't he beat people with a whip for doing exactly this?

Then they told me to get completely undressed and put this poncho on. Feeling VERY much exposed and much more nervous at this point, I was led to the room to get washed and anointed... by far my least favorite part of the whole thing... and stepping into that baggy one-piece garment... and then when I got my special, secret, New Name... "Nimrod." Nimrod?

Really?

REALLY?

At this point I just started to see myself going through the whole experience as though I was watching someone else do it. This was NOTHING like the special, peaceful spiritual experience everyone had told me I would have; it was just odd, uncomfortable, weird, and totally beyond any rational comprehension. I told myself that if I thought it was strange, it was because my heart and mind were not in tune with the Lord's because His ways are perfect and beyond our understanding. I learned not to trust my own thoughts and feelings at that point. The whole experience was like this from beginning to end.

Secret handshakes? What about amputees? Do they just imagine themselves doing the handshakes or what? What about people who have short-term memory disorder? They won't be able to remember the handshakes they need! Surely God can make allowances for them; then why not for me? Won't God know me without the stupid signs and tokens? Isn't it enough that I try to be the best person I can be? Do I really need to pass a silly ceremonial test and put on a really stupid looking hat to get into Heaven? The whole thing was a massive shot of cognitive dissonance. It really seemed more like something a 19th-century charlatan would invent than something an almighty creator would ordain. I told myself that the oddness was cultural. I kept telling myself the problem was with ME, not with the temple. What a good sheep I was...

I went back many times because I sincerely wanted to understand; I wanted to tune my heart and mind to the will of the Lord. Secretly though I always dreaded it deep inside precisely because it was incomprehensible, weird, uncomfortable, and more than a little boring, and because the more I pondered it, the LESS sense it made.

The temple is possibly the thing I miss the LEAST about the church... well, no, the temple recommend interviews actually take that place... but the temple experience itself is not too far behind.

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The endowment ceremony was a major mindf**k for me. I had no prior information (this was a week before I got married) and as I was walking in, a missionary was at the front office with what looked to be throw-up all over the front of his shirt---nice start! I felt right then that if this missionary didn't feel worthy, what the hell was I doing there? The washing and annointing was beyond frightening--taught all those years that my physical self was off limits and to have the little old ladies touching me---eee gads. The endowment ceremony really threw me off also. What was with the men and women being segregated? Also, the pizza hats were way too much! Hilarious in a creepy way. The temple workers were mean and impatient. I was annoying them to death with not getting my clothes right and they let me know I was a disaster. I think the thing that put me over the edge was the secrecy and the the threat of death at every turn---adding dread fear to Mormon guilt was a deadly combination and I believe the masterminds at COB should be given special recognition for a job well done. At the veil, I was chastised for forgetting and felt (as I usually did with anything mormon) that I could never do it right. Also, creepy to be holding hands and touching knees with an old guy who determines your ability to enter the kingdom by knowing a groovy handshake---really ghetto in todays terms! Oh yeah, the temple workers lost me for 3 hours--I just sat on a bench waiting for someone to figure out where I was supposed to be. It ended up being a seven hour ordeal for me.

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I went thru just before I entered the MTC. My parents couldn't travel out here with me, so I was there with a family friend and my great-grandpa.

When I had interviewed with the SP, he asked me if my parents had explained the temple clothes to me. I said yes, 'cause, duh, they wear white in the temple! Man, thanks for preparing me!

Pretty much the whole thing freaked me out! I had no idea what to think. Here I was leaving for a mission and I get all this thrown on me. Why didn't anyone prepare me about how weird it was all going to be? All I had ever heard was how special and spiritual it all was. I didn't feel special or spiritual! I felt dazed and confused!

I tried being a good TBM over the years, but it just didn't get any better. I am so glad that I am done!

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I hated the whole damn thing.

During the ceremony I looked over at my dad a few times. I loved and trusted that guy, and yet he let me come here, knowing me, knowing my distaste for anything cryptic or bullshitful, knowing the ceremony, and not giving even a word of warning? He knew that I couldn't even stand scouting for all the various handshakes, laws, oaths, and old guys telling us how this would turn us into real men. How could he not have seen what was coming? Why didn't he warn me? Did he really value the temple oath of secrecy more than me? He wouldn't even have to tell the juicy parts. Just, "Hey, Atrics, you're going to see and hear a bunch of stuff that will creep you out. Get ready, because you won't like it. It's like scouts, like the Order of the Arrow on acid. Just shut up, do what you're told, and try to not laugh out loud." A hint that it might be humorous would have been a tremendous relief, a different outlet for what turned into pure agony. I don't think I've ever felt more sold out by my father. He's really a good guy, too. I remember once, when I was a deacon, how during a stake priesthood meeting he voted against a proposal by our stake, wanting to buy some recreational property. My dad was the first man to raise his hand in opposition, although right after that about five other men did too. I thought he was so awesome, daring to express his real opinion in the face of all that group-think. I really had seen him as a stud of integrity. You might not believe this, but I had never seen him lie. But here he was, more loyal to promises extorted from him, allowing me to be similarly extorted, not giving even a word of warning. In fact, he wouldn't even look at me.

I glanced around at all the more experienced Mormons, speechless while faking spiritual orgasm, and thinking what a bunch of idiots. I hated them.

I hated being asked to dedicate my everything or go to hell. I hated the ostensible "of your own free will" crap, because I knew for certain that it was deliberate whitewash on something that was at best manipulative but more probably sinister. I don't know about the rest of you who went to the temple, but I was already committed before I knew what I was committing to. The only way out was through intense public shame and expulsion by my social world. In all my previous life experience, I had never before felt so betrayed. Only in the Mormon temple did I experience a full-pressure bait-and-switch.

I hated the damned garments and their amazing capacity to work their way right up my ass. In that entire experience, only the ass-irritating garments carried symbolic truth.

The next time I went to the temple was after I entered the MTC. I only went because we had to. Do that or go home. One guy from our group of eight left the MTC early. The rest made all the sympathetic comments that I knew translated to, "Pathetic loser!" The last day that my group of elders had to go to the Provo temple--tellingly shaped like a toilet bowl, a second symoblic truth--I vowed to myself that I would never ever go into that gawd-awful place again, that despite all the compromises and prostitution of my soul to which I had already submitted, I would at least stand my ground on this one point.

Argh! I am so angry thinking back on this. I'm angry at my parents for selling me out to something they could only hope to believe by closing one eye and trusting the generation that had lied to them. I'm pissed at my grandparents--my grandpa had been a mission president and surely knew that I was like the missionaries he had told us about, the ones who bucked and recoiled the whole time. Both of my grandparents lied about how I would love the temple and find deep symbolic truth and draw ever nearer to the Lord. Every time I went, they assured, I would see more deeply into the truth of the church. In retrospect I guess that they were right.

I'm disappointed in myself for not standing up, for not telling them all to go copulate with a cactus, and for not standing up with my integrity intact and leaving that loathsome place.

Today I again forgive myself: by that point of my life I was so demoralized and cowed by the searing self-doubt, the repeated lessons by people I trusted who indirectly told me that I was fundamentally evil for having sexual yearnings, moments of doubt, anger, or the arrogance to think for myself. I forgive myself, the young man who was laboring under the painful yoke of certainty that I inevitably would end up as a ministering angel, not having been bold enough for hell, but not being good enough to have love during the eternities. The only testimony that I ever really had was knowing that I was not and never would be good enough. That's what the church and the temple experience gave to me. It's branded into my soul.

I hate this church. I hate it.

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It's been over half a century since I went for my personal endowments. Still I remember it as though it was yesterday. I was nineteen, a college kid, living at home. As a recent convert (thanks LDS girlfriend), I was anxious to fulfill the mission plan to temple marriage. I purchased G's to wear and my mom opened them. A saintly woman, she didn't say anything, but she gave me a strange look. Because my dad worked 'graveyard' shift, we'd been raised on quiet evening activities while he slept. Thus I kept a journal. I decided to 'return and report' on my temple experience.

I'm looking at that entry now. It is very revealing. I wrote about those who accompanied me, the route to the temple, the feeling of excitement. I wrote of the four rooms that my company traversed in the temple that day, the pretty murals, the chandeliers, the huge white chair at the foot of the staircase. I mentioned the quiet, reverent atmosphere. AND there my narrative ends. I'm an extrovert, I know no shortage of words. But on that day, nothing, nada, no comprehend senor! I couldn't bring myself to talk about the clothing we wore, the handshakes and oaths, the strange dialogue we listened to, the promises we made and/or forms of death that could be dealt out to us. It was so peculiar, so strange, that for once I was speechless.

Fifty years later, I'm still speechless. I recently decided to never set foot in such a place again. Give me a forest glen, an ocean shore, a mountain peak to commune with spiritual feelings.

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